Comments on: Consciousness http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/consciousness/consciousness/ Where Friendly Porcupines Abound in the Great State of Maine Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:52:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Mardé http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/consciousness/consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-4795 Mardé Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:15:18 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/consciousness/260/#comment-4795 Hi Barbara, thanks for trying! Yes, I'd say your example of a seizure or attack could be an example of an Emergent Attribute. But of what? Perhaps of the body's nervous system? But that's kind of ill-defined. Maybe that's why the seizure could be called Emergent. Yes, the knee jerk might be Reductive: We can deduce that the knee will jerk, knowing the positions of the nerves in the knee, etc. A placebo might indeed be Delusive: the intended pill doesn't exist, so this would be a Delusive Material Attribute. But of what? Perhaps of the concept of placebo, or the general category of placebo substances. So, I'd give you a grade of between 90 and 100, Barbara. That's an A. :grin: Of course, again, the old Broad might be cringing over what we're doing to his Attribute definitions. But then he shouldn't have gone on and on and on so much about them to the extent that unless you're a licensed philosopher you can't make heads or tails out of what he's saying! :lol: :roll: Hi Barbara, thanks for trying! Yes, I’d say your example of a seizure or attack could be an example of an Emergent Attribute. But of what? Perhaps of the body’s nervous system? But that’s kind of ill-defined. Maybe that’s why the seizure could be called Emergent.

Yes, the knee jerk might be Reductive: We can deduce that the knee will jerk, knowing the positions of the nerves in the knee, etc.

A placebo might indeed be Delusive: the intended pill doesn’t exist, so this would be a Delusive Material Attribute. But of what? Perhaps of the concept of placebo, or the general category of placebo substances.

So, I’d give you a grade of between 90 and 100, Barbara. That’s an A. :grin:

Of course, again, the old Broad might be cringing over what we’re doing to his Attribute definitions. But then he shouldn’t have gone on and on and on so much about them to the extent that unless you’re a licensed philosopher you can’t make heads or tails out of what he’s saying! :lol: :roll:

]]> By: barbara http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/consciousness/consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-4791 barbara Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:15:50 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/consciousness/260/#comment-4791 Hi Mardé, I was trying to find other examples for your definitions. Emergeant attribute...a seizure or attack. That's something very specific that you can't predict. Reductive attribute.... a "knee jerk" ( like when the dr tests you). A certain muscle behind the leg attomatically makes a movement when hit.And unless you have a serious problem with the nerves of your legs, it always works. Delusive attribute... Hmmm... An empty attribute ?? Like when a volunteer takes a pill which is in fact just a sugar pill (placebo). An attribute that is supposed to help stop certain symptoms ( like a migraine). That's the only one I could think of for the moment... I hope that I have the correct idea, Mard. See you soon. Hi Mardé,
I was trying to find other examples for your definitions.
Emergeant attribute…a seizure or attack. That’s something very specific that you can’t predict.

Reductive attribute…. a “knee jerk” ( like when the dr tests you). A certain muscle behind the leg attomatically makes a movement when hit.And unless you have a serious problem with the nerves of your legs, it always works.

Delusive attribute… Hmmm… An empty attribute ??
Like when a volunteer takes a pill which is in fact just a sugar pill (placebo). An attribute that is supposed to help stop certain symptoms ( like a migraine).
That’s the only one I could think of for the moment…

I hope that I have the correct idea, Mard.
See you soon.

]]> By: Mardé http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/consciousness/consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-4774 Mardé Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:20:30 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/consciousness/260/#comment-4774 Get our neurons blasting! That's a good one, Barbara. But I've got to get on the ball and follow up on the "to be continued...." on this post. Also, I'll be looking forward to your ideas! Cheers, /Mardé Get our neurons blasting! That’s a good one, Barbara. But I’ve got to get on the ball and follow up on the “to be continued….” on this post. Also, I’ll be looking forward to your ideas!

Cheers,
/Mardé

]]> By: barbara http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/consciousness/consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-4773 barbara Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:01:09 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/consciousness/260/#comment-4773 Hi Mardé, OK; I'am game to toss around a few ideas soon on this subject. Go ahead and get our neurons blasting :lol: See you soon. Hi Mardé,
OK; I’am game to toss around a few ideas soon on this subject.
Go ahead and get our neurons blasting :lol:

See you soon.

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