Comments on: STOP WAR !! http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/ Where Friendly Porcupines Abound in the Great State of Maine Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:54:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Mardé http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/#comment-5521 Mardé Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:33:40 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/stop-war/403/#comment-5521 Good palindrome, Steve! Too bad the evil of two lessers got chosen in 2004. Would Kerry have been just as evil? I can't bring myself to believe that. Good palindrome, Steve! Too bad the evil of two lessers got chosen in 2004. Would Kerry have been just as evil? I can’t bring myself to believe that.

]]> By: Steve Hayes http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/#comment-5518 Steve Hayes Mon, 07 Apr 2008 05:57:12 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/stop-war/403/#comment-5518 Well you have the choice of the least of three evils. In 2004 you had to choose the evil of two lessers. Well you have the choice of the least of three evils.

In 2004 you had to choose the evil of two lessers.

]]> By: Mardé http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/#comment-5515 Mardé Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:14:01 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/stop-war/403/#comment-5515 Yes, I believe you are correct in believing Nader cost Gore the Presidency. See my post <a href="http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/nader-explained/386/" rel="nofollow">Nader Explained</a> and the link to the article by Bob Herbert. This article gives a fair opinion of Ralph Nader, I think, and concludes that it's hard to prove Gore would still have lost if Nader had not run. And Gore would have been infinitely preferable to George W. Bush. Yes, I agree that it's not altogether clear that Iraq would be worse off if we left precipitously. Of course nothing will happen until Bush is out of there. The objective should be to minimize deaths but if it's not possible to insure that if we worked with other nations we could still not minimize deaths then we might as well just get out, and I mean "lock, stock, and barrel". Yes, that's great about the proportional representation in Ireland. I wonder how long it will take this country to institutionalize it on a national basis? Well, the answer is probably "a heck of a long time". Yes, I believe you are correct in believing Nader cost Gore the Presidency. See my post Nader Explained and the link to the article by Bob Herbert. This article gives a fair opinion of Ralph Nader, I think, and concludes that it’s hard to prove Gore would still have lost if Nader had not run. And Gore would have been infinitely preferable to George W. Bush.

Yes, I agree that it’s not altogether clear that Iraq would be worse off if we left precipitously. Of course nothing will happen until Bush is out of there. The objective should be to minimize deaths but if it’s not possible to insure that if we worked with other nations we could still not minimize deaths then we might as well just get out, and I mean “lock, stock, and barrel”.

Yes, that’s great about the proportional representation in Ireland. I wonder how long it will take this country to institutionalize it on a national basis? Well, the answer is probably “a heck of a long time”.

]]> By: Aileni Noyle http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/#comment-5514 Aileni Noyle Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:36:12 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/stop-war/403/#comment-5514 Am I correct in believing Nader split the vote sufficiently last time to lose Gore the Presidency ? It is one hell of a dilemma. I don't really understand why a man who rejected the war would not come right out and say he would withdraw all the troops. If it is a belief that it would spark a civil war in its wake - what is happening now ? The inhabitants of a made-up country like Iraq are going to settle the matter bloodily whatever the US does. More a question of slow burn or explosion. Incidentally, I wasted my vote all my life until I came to Ireland and proportional representation. Cheers, Aileni. Am I correct in believing Nader split the vote sufficiently last time to lose Gore the Presidency ? It is one hell of a dilemma. I don’t really understand why a man who rejected the war would not come right out and say he would withdraw all the troops. If it is a belief that it would spark a civil war in its wake - what is happening now ? The inhabitants of a made-up country like Iraq are going to settle the matter bloodily whatever the US does. More a question of slow burn or explosion.
Incidentally, I wasted my vote all my life until I came to Ireland and proportional representation.
Cheers, Aileni.

]]> By: Mardé http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/#comment-5509 Mardé Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:54:49 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/stop-war/403/#comment-5509 Thanks for your comments. Sorry it's taken me so long to respond. It's hard to know what to say. Danielle, I hear what you're saying and sympathize. The only trouble is Nader hasn't a chance in hell, and as Annette says, I'm sick of throwing my vote away. The best he could do is take more votes from the Dem than the Repug, which is in the wrong direction. I do think there is still a difference between McCain and Obama/Clinton. Of the three, Obama is perhaps the least objectionable, so, I'd have to take a chance on him, contrary to what I said in my post. Barbara, it's good that you're taking your time about voting. It's a hard choice, even whether to vote at all. It's depressing and scary. Thanks for your comments. Sorry it’s taken me so long to respond. It’s hard to know what to say. Danielle, I hear what you’re saying and sympathize. The only trouble is Nader hasn’t a chance in hell, and as Annette says, I’m sick of throwing my vote away. The best he could do is take more votes from the Dem than the Repug, which is in the wrong direction. I do think there is still a difference between McCain and Obama/Clinton. Of the three, Obama is perhaps the least objectionable, so, I’d have to take a chance on him, contrary to what I said in my post. Barbara, it’s good that you’re taking your time about voting. It’s a hard choice, even whether to vote at all. It’s depressing and scary.

]]> By: barbara http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/#comment-5507 barbara Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:18:10 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/stop-war/403/#comment-5507 Hello Mardé, You know that I'am no longer on US soil like yourself. But, a citizen I deplore what is going on over there. I have not sent my absentee ballot yet, but it's better to take your time. Here is more food for thought . You take care my friend. Hello Mardé,
You know that I’am no longer on US soil like yourself. But, a citizen I deplore what is going on over there.
I have not sent my absentee ballot yet, but it’s better to take your time.
Here is more food for thought .

You take care my friend.

]]> By: Annette http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/#comment-5506 Annette Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:10:45 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/stop-war/403/#comment-5506 Hi Marde, Looks like a little "divide and conquer"!!! I am sick of throwing my vote away. Peace, Annette Hi Marde,
Looks like a little “divide and conquer”!!! I am sick of throwing my vote away.
Peace,
Annette

]]> By: Danielle Vyas http://mcseavey.org/blog/http:/mcseavey.org/blog/anti-war/stop-war/#comment-5505 Danielle Vyas Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:06:47 +0000 http://mcseavey.org/blog/index.php/stop-war/403/#comment-5505 I am with you, Marde. We do have options Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney. I strongly believe based on their own plans that none of the "accepted" candidates will withdraw from Iraq. If we do not push and push and push I am afraid that the illegal, immoral American War in Iraq will continue and spread to neighboring Iran. If you are considering Ralph Nader I am a moderator of our unofficial yahoo group where we share updated information about the campaign. If all progressives would really take a look at his platform coupled with his vast experience they would flock to him. Wishing you and yours all the best In light and love Danielle I am with you, Marde.
We do have options Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney. I strongly believe based on their own plans that none of the “accepted” candidates will withdraw from Iraq.

If we do not push and push and push I am afraid that the illegal, immoral American War in Iraq will continue and spread to neighboring Iran.

If you are considering Ralph Nader I am a moderator of our unofficial yahoo group where we share updated information about the campaign. If all progressives would really take a look at his platform coupled with his vast experience they would flock to him.

Wishing you and yours all the best

In light and love

Danielle

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