Likable Enough?

A friend of Josh Marshall points out that another good moment for Hillary in the Saturday night pre-NH debate came when the moderator asked her about her likability, or lack of it. Josh suggests it was her best moment and Obama’s worst.

I agree it was a good moment for her. Obama’s “You’re likable enough.” response may have been just a tad condescending? Although maybe not?


Amazing how you have to have it all to win an election in this day and age of intrusive media.

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  1. GeologyJoe’s avatar

    I have got to say that I was pretty disappointed to see H.C. come out on top in the NH primary.
    I think the 4% sway was related more to her show of emotions the other day than the debate responses.

  2. Mardé’s avatar

    Yes, Joe, I agree. I was shocked right at the beginning when I saw her lead with only 10% of the vote in.

    Yes, I agree, too, that it was her show of emotions the other day that was the predominant cause of the last minute voter swings. But that debate performance helped to some extent, too, I think.

    Women recognize their own! :roll:
    They sure came out in force.

    Maybe she could beat the Republican if she’s nominated, even if it’s media-darling John McCain.

  3. SleepyLaKate’s avatar

    I like Hills.
    She’s a tough cookie and has to put up with a lot of crap, simply because she’s a woman.

    Obama’s comment could be taken in so many ways…I’m sure they’ve had many moments “off stage” together.. It is tough in this day and age where every little tiny nuance is scrutinized by the many medias.

  4. Mardé’s avatar

    Yes, that’s right Kate. Every little tiny nuance is scrutinized. She does well and it must take a gigantic ego to cope. Sometimes that has to break down. Men have been programmed not to cave, of course. And I guess when they do they’re usually through, like Senator Muskie from Maine long ago.

  5. SleepyLaKate’s avatar

    Yes, or Senator (?) Dean (from Vermont) who had that “primal scream”… poof, gone.
    (and see, I’ve already forgotten his name!)

    Hills knows this, I mean growing up when she did and studying feminism in college, so what a tough position she is in.. how much and how little to show, emotionally. She’s an expert.. remember when she had to 1. defend her husband when he was accussed of messing around and then 2. she had to admit that he was a cheating slut and addicted to power but that she was still going to stand by him. How composed she remained through out all that was pretty presidential in emotion, if you ask me. I mean, we’ve all seen Bill Clinton shed more tears than old Hills.

  6. Mardé’s avatar

    Yes, yer right, Kate. Old Hills has had to withstand a constant stream of hate and derision, coming from the right wing and supported by much of the media, until it is believed by many people. However, many others, the majority of whom are women, see through the propaganda and support her. They fully understand how much courage it took not to crack up over the behavior of that “cheating slut”. Yes, I would agree she’s presidential material. However, of the three, I think I now favor Obama.

    Were you thinking of Howard Dean? Yes, the primal scream really did him in back then. But look at him now, he’s chairman of the Democratic National Committee and has done a great job, I think, while keeping a low profile.

  7. SleepyLaKate’s avatar

    Yes, that’s who I meant. Good for him.


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